Carlos Lam, a deputy prosecutor in Johnson County, Ind., resigned after sending an email encouraging Gov. Scott Walker to fake an attack against himself. Photo from a video debate posted at 3 Left Turns Make a Right.
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5:39 p.m.: This is an updated version. Read the Center’s original version here.
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An Indiana deputy prosecutor and Republican activist resigned Thursday after the Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism uncovered an email to Gov. Scott Walker in which he suggested a fake attack on the governor to discredit union protesters.
Carlos F. Lam submitted his resignation shortly before the Center published a story quoting his Feb. 19 email, which praised Walker for standing up to unions but went on to say that the chaos in Wisconsin presented “a good opportunity for what’s called a ‘false flag’ operation.”
“If you could employ an associate who pretends to be sympathetic to the unions’ cause to physically attack you (or even use a firearm against you), you could discredit the unions,” the email said.
“Currently, the media is painting the union protest as a democratic uprising and failing to mention the role of the DNC and umbrella union organizations in the protest. Employing a false flag operation would assist in undercutting any support that the media may be creating in favor of the unions. God bless, Carlos F. Lam.”
At 5 a.m. Thursday, expecting the story to come out that day, Lam called his boss, Johnson County, Ind., Prosecutor Brad Cooper, and told him he had been up all night thinking about it.
“He wanted to come clean, I guess, and said he is the one who sent that email,” Cooper said.
He came into the office and gave his resignation verbally, Cooper told the Daily Journal in Franklin, Ind. The resignation was announced after the Center’s initial story was published.
Email headers with detailed IP addresses suggested that the message was sent from Indianapolis.
Lam, an Indianapolis resident, at first told the Center he never wrote it.
Reached Tuesday by phone at the number listed on the email, Lam confirmed his email address matched the Hotmail address appearing on the Walker email, but said he had never written to Walker.
“I am flabbergasted and would never advocate for something like this, and would like everyone to be sure that that’s just not me,” he said, after being read the email.
Indiana deputy prosecutor Carlos Lam confirms this email appears to be from his email address, but he denies sending it. Click to see a larger version in a new page.
Asked his views on Scott Walker, Lam said, “I think he’s trying to do what he has to do to get his budget balanced. But jeez, that’s taking it a little bit to the extreme,” he said of the email’s suggestion to fake violence. “Jeez!”
He said he was minivan-shopping with his family when the email was sent.
Walker’s bill to balance the budget and strip most collective bargaining rights from public employees was introduced Feb. 11 and triggered protests involving tens of thousands of people at the Capitol for weeks.
Lam is the second Indiana prosecutor to resign over suggestions to use violence in Wisconsin.
He sent this email the same Saturday on which another Indiana law-enforcement figure, state Deputy Attorney General Jeffrey Cox, tweeted that riot police should “use live ammunition” to clear the Capitol of protesters.
Cox was fired Feb. 23 after Mother Jones magazine published the suggestion from his private Twitter account.
The Wisconsin Center for Investigative Journalism discovered the email to Walker among tens of thousands released to media organizations last week as part of an open-records lawsuit settlement with Isthmus and the Associated Press. It was in a folder produced by the governor’s office called “Pro,” full of emails supporting the governor’s budget repair bill.
A lawyer in the governor’s office, Nate Ristow, said most of the emails to Walker were sorted into folders automatically by a computer, though some were added to the folders manually.
Cullen Werwie, Walker’s press secretary, said no one at the office had seen the email or contacted Lam. Werwie condemned the email’s suggestions Monday in a statement to the Center.
“Certainly we do not support the actions suggested in Carlos’ email. Governor Walker has said time and again that the protesters have every right to have their voice heard, and for the most part the protests have been peaceful. We are hopeful that the tradition will continue,” Werwie wrote.
On Feb. 22, when a prank-caller posing as major Walker campaign donor David Koch suggested planting troublemakers in the crowd, Walker began by saying, “Well, the only problem with that — because we thought about that,” but ultimately said he’d decided it was a bad idea.
“My only fear would be is if there was a ruckus caused is that that would scare the public into thinking maybe the governor has gotta settle to avoid all these problems,” Walker told the blogger.
Walker’s comments troubled Madison Police Chief Noble Wray and Mayor Dave Cieslewicz.
“I find it very unsettling and troubling that anyone would consider creating safety risks for our citizens and law enforcement officers,” Wray said in a statement at the time.
Lam, who had asked that his name not be used, said he was particularly concerned since “the person who wrote this seems to know a lot about me” and his account “had been hacked in the past.” On the advice of Cooper, he took down his Facebook page, changed his cell phone number, email passwords, “library, medical, bank, student loan, and a whole host of records,” and was afraid for his and his family’s safety.
He said he had made some political enemies, particularly in primary fights he helped on, and also said he often left his email account open at his home. But he said he couldn’t think of any specific suspects.
Madison Police Det. Cindy Murphy said that if Lam’s account was hacked and his identity was stolen, either Wisconsin or Indiana could have jurisdiction over that crime.
Murphy, who specializes in computer forensics, said it would have been simple to figure out whether Lam had been hacked by requesting information from Hotmail and his Internet service provider. Lam had declined to name his provider to the Center.
Prosecutor outspoken about conservative views
Lam’s blog posts, video appearances and comments on the Internet paint the picture of an outspoken, politically active, longtime Republican who has publicly lambasted collective bargaining for state employee unions and alluded to government taxation as “essentially taking money at gunpoint.”
Carlos Lam's comments online are consistent with some of the sentiments in the email. Click for a larger version. Image: Screengrab from SeekingAlpha.com.
In one of his 1,306 comments on a stock investors’ site, Lam called Indiana “an unsustainable public worker gravy train bubble.” In another, he said “unions & companies that feed at the gov’t trough will fight tooth & nail against anything that un-feathers their nests.”
Lam wrote in his account profile there that he “believes that to truly prosper as the republic envisioned by the Founding Fathers, we must return to principles of sound money and limited government. He has his own ‘3G network’ that is quite apart from Apple: guns, gold and gasoline.’ ”
Before Lam resigned, Erik Guenther, a criminal defense and constitutional lawyer at the Madison law firm of Hurley, Burish and Stanton, said that if the email’s writer were to participate in devising such a scheme, he could be held accountable for conspiracy to obstruct justice — “but an unsolicited and idiotic suggestion itself probably is not a crime.”
Madison criminal defense lawyer Michael Short said that if Lam wrote the email, he should be investigated for a possible breach of the Indiana Rules of Professional Conduct, for “suggesting that officials in the Walker administration commit a felony,” namely, misconduct in public office.
Those rules state that “conduct involving dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation” amount to professional misconduct. They are the rules to which lawyers are held accountable by the Indiana lawyer discipline system.
Cooper, the Johnson County prosecutor, at first adamantly defended Lam, whom he has known for most of his career. The Republican said he was not considering any such investigation.
“Whether there’s rules of professional conduct that apply or not is irrelevant, because he didn’t send it,” Cooper said Wednesday.
“At the time, I had zero doubts that he had been hacked,” Cooper said Thursday,
after the resignation.
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Don’t prosecutors “feed at the public trough?”
I would dismiss this as a tertiary issue not worth pursuing. All parties have been hurling side issues like this to discredit each other and it is just too much of a distraction from the issues at hand. Those being, are we the people going to let Walker hand our state over to the corporate masters.
Carlos F. Lam asked a question on EWTN.com in 2002. He signed it “God Bless, Carlos F. Lam cafi@saintly.com”
http://www.ewtn.com/vexperts/showmessage.asp?number=313629&Pg=Forum25&Pgnu=1&recnu=9
Same dude, member of CAFI, Catholics Allied for the Faith.
http://cafiweb2.blogspot.com/
If you search Google images you’ll see it’s the same Carlos F. Lam as above. Follow the second image to blogspot and see his profile and links to his CAFI blog.
Interesting. “God Bless, Carlos F. Lam”. The same way the email to Walker was signed.
Give it up, Lam. You’re busted.
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Regarding the statement from the Johnson County prosecutor, why is it not on letterhead, no contact info??
And another one bites the dust!
So long, don’t let the door hit you on the ass. Or do. Whatever, we’re not going to pay attention to you on the way out anyway.
Nice piece of journalism here. Compliments.
Hahaha. Cretin. I found this bit from Carlos Lam a few minutes ago:
Amazon.com: Carlos F. Lam’s review of Civil War Two: The Coming Breakup of America http://awesomescreenshot.com/0139ymjfd
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Excellent work! This makes me wonder what else he was up to in his 18 years active in the Indiana GOP.
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“This makes me wonder what else he was up to in his 18 years active in the Indiana GOP.”
Contacting local Indianapolis talk shows and giving them sloppy kisses about wingnuttery. Smarter than the average caller, but as deranged as any talk show host.
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Furthermore, “County” prosecutor Cooper should be taken to task for being unwilling to investigate except when threatened with media exposure.
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scooter, the reverse robin hood and sheriff of fitzwalkerstan has a lot in common with Lam I feel. Who do you think was their mentor–their party?
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Man, that Civil War 2 book is basically a racist screed against blacks and Hispanics. Sweet to know he didn’t have any problem reading American Renaissance-style books. What a kook
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That Amazon review (posted by notexactlyhuman above) is more disgusting than the letter to me, and that was in displayed proudly in public.
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This person is a public official, not just a political activist. I believe he SHOULD be investigated for breach of conduct and misconduct in public office. There are way too many people in OFFICIAL positions using their power in this manner. Investigate, and prosecute if possible, to serve as a warning to other “public officials” that this type of conduct will not be tolerated and should not be tolerated by public officials. Thank you.
Talk about outside agitators! How many of these does Walker have in his camp?
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Lam concludes his message encouraging an elected head of state to fabricate an attack on his person with the closing greeting, “God Bless.”
Isn’t the Ninth Commandment “Bear No False Witness”?
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Find out in what state this clown is licensed to practice law, and make a formal complaint to the state bar. That will completely F him up for a long, long time.
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I would think the idea that a prosecutor suggestion the commission of a crime should also be grounds to have him dis-bared from practicing law if not arrested !
I wonder what a wider net of open records requests would find? Has Mr. Lam written to Wis. government officials on other occasions? Has he corresponded with government officials in Ohio and Indiana and anywhere else newly-elected Republican Governors are trying to pass unpopular union-busting laws? Is he an acquaintance of the other Indiana official who suggested using violence on protesters and are they both members of any group which advocated using violence against unions or protesters in any of the states seeing Wisconsin-type legislation this spring?
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False flag goes pupolar!
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How do you like the New World Order so far? Walkers next move is to sell the states infrastructure to the money trust.Then the dems will be a shoe in and they will bring in the world socialist agenda that was created and backed by the richest families in the world to make slaves of the USA.How well will socialism work with all jobs moved to China well it won’t work but its not supposed to work its just a stepping stone to hard core communism.Seriously people are stupid what do you think communitarian means? Just change a couple letters in communism and say its for the old folks and the children and Americans will buy it.Communism is on the way but the corporations will rule at the top of it all.This will be a great public/private partnership.Why is all this happening because we are to proud to believe that every thing we ever knew was a lie.Some day soon if our children survive they will curse us for what we allowed the money trust to do to them.This Lam guy should not just be investigated for rules violations he should be charged criminally for conspiracy to commit.Hell I’ll write up the criminal complaint and hand it to the attorney general instead of sitting on my behind crying about it.You are the person you’ve been looking for go after these criminals.
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Congratulations to WisconsinWatch.org Dog Organization for bringing this story to the public!! Thank you so much!! Nothing is greater than exposing these phonies who hope to destroy our republic!!! Great journalism!
I grew up in Indiana. I know exactly the unrelenting bigotry of these people.Just remember Indiana was greatly involved with the KKK. Blacks were not welcomed to do anything other than be servants and perform meanial jobs.It seems nothing has changed. Thank God my family were Democrats who practiced real Christian charity and abhored the Republican attitude of superiority! And just my luck to have unkowingly retired to Arizona! Another group of radical bigots!!! Oh, well, the weather’s nice!
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I represent justice and the Constitution of the United States of America. We must not divide into parties when the congress has failed to do the job they were elected and get paid to do. When education has been cut, unemployment insurance denied to families that have earned wages, and jobs cut across the world we must come together. The state Governor makes decisions about revenue not Washington. I live in Missouri and the current system here is corrupt. Our governor Jay Nixon has cut education, over taxed citizens, and withheld federal funds. Not to mention nobody holds him accountable. What can we do as Americans? Unions! Don’t vote for Jay Nixon!